Explicit Language Warning!
The following South Park Video may be considered very offensive. Listen to the message though. This is a previous South Park video from Combs’ “Vote or Die” rant. At the recent BET Awards, Sean “Diddy” Combs chanted “Obama or Die”. See second video. This is the message of Democrats, liberals, and the left and emphasizes the point made by the left-winger in my previous post. Obama or else.
Thanks to Hot Air.
Everybody Now, Let’s Do a Left Twist
Comment by simonesdad2008
June 25th, 2008 12:03 pmSo what’s the point? Let’s concede every one of your points as true for the sake of this discussion. Barack is STILL kicking your man’s butt. He will have raised a half billion dollars from millions of donors by the time it’s all said and done. He leads in all the polls. He attracts huge crowds wherever he goes. He has active, invested, enthusiastic supporters. He has already killed a giant in the primaries. All of his dirty laundry is out there for the world to see. He has more than enough resources to counter any 527. Speaking of resources, he can challenge in red and purple states, effectively forcing Old Man River to spend time and money defending instead breaking new ground himself. McCain as a stand alone candidate has no momentum. You would rather attempt your feeble attacks than extol the virtues of Father Time. If he were my candidate I would do the same.
The bottom line is that no one cares about McCain. All your petty snipes do is strengthen the resolve of the broadest political base since Reagan. After November I will take great pleasure in throwing all of your garbage back in your face.
Comment by Wade
June 25th, 2008 2:28 pmTypical response by the left as shown by simonesdad2008. Instead attempting to rationally rebut this article he resorts to that age old childish, “My dad is better than your dad” response by stating, “Barack is STILL kicking your man’s butt.” Yeah, that will convince me to vote for Obama in a heartbeat.
This seems typical of those who see Obama as a prophet that will save us from ourselves by loading us with government regulations that take away our personal responsibility for our lives. If you cannot disprove the evidence against “your man” you whine and cry and jump up and down like a child, throw a tantrum, hold your breath, and hope mommy and Uncle Sam give in to your wishes and treats you like the irresponsible child you are.
Comment by simonesdad2008
June 25th, 2008 7:35 pm
No Wade, what I’m saying is that the majority of Americans reject these sad arguments and this candidate of yours. There is no need to rebut anything. My candidate IS better than your candidate and that’s why he will win. You are supposed to feel the same way about McCain but you don’t so are reduced to whining or crying yourself. All you have is attack politics. You don’t have a candidate you are excited about. You can read all of the posts by UC and all of the comments on this conservative site. No one is sticking up for Father Time. All there is is why you should or shouldn’t vote for Barack. There are no this is why you should vote for McCain discussions. He’s a non-issue as a candidate. That says it all. Elections are all about enthusiasm which equals turnout. John Kerry was not the ideal in 2004 and still almost won. Do you think Barack can improve upon those results? Even if Barack was not the ideal himself, W has all but handed to him anyway. I’m not trying to convince anyone to vote for Barack. That is his job and he is brilliant at it. I could care less if you or any cons miss the boat. It’s sailing with or without you. Americans have seen what the republicans are capable of the last 7 years and are sick of it. So when you speak out against Barack as you do it is almost an endorsement of him given your own record. If you praise Father Time it has the opposite effect as well. Maybe that’s why we don’t hear a peep when it comes to McCain. It is a masterful political stroke by “my man.”
Comment by Wade
June 26th, 2008 5:37 amMy candidate IS BETTER THAN YOUR CANDIDATE BECAUSE HE IS BETTER. Backing up my point simonesdad2008, no valid argument, just, my candidate is better than yours because he is. You have fallen for Obama’s slick tongue. Is that all it takes to elect a president? Obama sounds good even though his speech has no substance, jut flowers, and that is what he is captivating everybody with, flowers.
Remember, the more a candidate promises something the less he/she understands the presidency. The president is not all powerful. Remember that group called Congress? They are the folks that control the President’s power.
And before you assume anything, I never said I was voting for McCain or that I like the guy. Neither candidate is fit for president.
Comment by simonesdad2008
June 26th, 2008 8:27 amEven if every single donation to Barack was from a black person, what’s the point? Groups don’t “rule” other groups in America (anymore). I think the point you are trying to make is that you are white and you are scared. You are seeing America grow up in front of your very eyes. It’s like your teenage son beating you in basketball for the first time and you know he’s growing stronger and more confident in himself everyday. You don’t want to accept it initially because its only ever been one way and now that’s changing. Barack running and winning means more than just winning. This country can finally turn an ugly page. Remember the movie “Back To The Future” There was a scene where Michael J. Fox’s character plays with the band. He goes off on this heavy metal riff (because he is from the future) and these kids from the 50’s look at him in stunned shock. They have no idea what he is playing. It’s just noise to them. He says, “you don’t understand, but your kids will love it.” I would say that President Obama (yes, get used to it) will have infinitely more compassion for the citizens of this country that are white than the majority of his predecessors had for black citizens. Boo!
Comment by Wade
June 26th, 2008 9:29 amSo what you are saying ‘dad, is that blacks are only voting for Obama because he is black and that means America is growing up? I have been beating this drum since Obama and Clinton announced they were running and the main stream media kept asking is America ready for a black or female president, that drum being;
If we in America have to ask if we are ready for a black or female president, it is a sign that we are not ready and America is not growing up and needs to grow up. If that is the whole basis to vote for someone, we are just as screwed up as our politicians and the MSM.
Let me make this clear, I don’t give a hoot if a president is black or white, male or female. I care about what that person is going to do to for my country. This black issue has to stop! By bringing it up all the time we keep ourselves from overcoming racism. I let my ears do my listening, not my eyes.
Comment by simonesdad2008
June 26th, 2008 10:22 am“So what you are saying ‘dad, is that blacks are only voting for Obama because he is black and that means America is growing up?”
No, that’s not what I’m saying. What I’m actually saying is that whites voting for Barack means America is growing up. Some people take an enlightened, measured, intelligent approach to casting a vote. Some people vote R or D because, “My dad was one and my grandfather was one and his father was one”… and so on and so forth. I’d say much more than 90% of McCain supporters are white. Nobody is saying that THEY are voting their race. That seems to only apply to blacks. You can alway ascribe motives or reasons for other people’s vote. The only one you can control is your own. Plus no one remembers that more black people supported Hillary Clinton over Obama prior to Iowa (look it up). The crossover happened when people saw that he could win white votes in significant numbers. That was the basketball moment in the driveway for America. But it wasn’t just black people (who vote democrat overwhelmingly anyway). It started a movement. In a movement people come out on their own. In a campaign you try to persuade people to come out. The goal of any election is to get more votes than your opponent. Barack Obama, for whatever reason you want to assign to it, has done a better job of attracting voters. In an election season that is the number one focus. People have used lies, fear, dirty tactics and oh by the way, issues to sway voters. People vote for someone who they would drink a beer with. People vote against their own best interests. People vote along ethnic and religious lines. The only reason anyone votes for anyone is completely up to them.
So what you are implying; blind support to neutralize white guilt or a feel good story for black people all at the peril and detriment of the country is fine. Some of it may even be true but don’t tell me that every vote for Father Time is a “pure” vote either. There are people today, right now, in 2008, who would never vote for Barack for exactly one reason. That is their right and so is the opposite. Vote your heart and conscience and mind and country. Vote your issues. Vote to participate in the democracy. In the end all we can control is our own vote.
Comment by Wade
June 26th, 2008 10:43 am“So what you are implying; blind support to neutralize white guilt or a feel good story for black people all at the peril and detriment of the country is fine.”
No, read my post again, it is obvious you missed what I am saying which is, people shouldn’t vote based on race or gender, if America has to bring it up as an issue it means America is not grown up at all. It is not a matter of voting Republican or Democrat because that is all I vote or the way my family votes. It should be as you said it yourself, “Some people take an enlightened, measured, intelligent approach to casting a vote.” Unfortunately, those people are in the minority.
Comment by simonesdad2008
June 26th, 2008 11:22 amWade:
I thought republicans wanted to deregulate everything. What is your obsession with controlling other people’s vote or controlling the national conversation about the president? Simply asking the question doesn’t mean we are or are not ready. What I read when I read your posts, Wade, is someone who is saying, “Listen to me. I have studied the issues and I know what’s best for me and you. If you haven’t done the same due diligence, stay out of it. Having a good president is more important than having a black or woman president.” Did it ever occur to you that we could have both? It seems like everyday more and more of what dems warned America about regarding W has come to pass with more to come I’m sure. I’d bet good money that no one could have talked you out of that vote in 2000 or 2004. Assuming you did vote for the “compassionate conservative” twice (and correct me if I’m wrong) would you vote for him in this cycle if he were eligible? I’m sure you took the same intelligent approach you are taking now, right? You were wrong then and you are wrong now. It just so happens that the person best suited to run this country, to restore America’s rightful place in the world just happens to be black. Him being black may actually facilitate and expedite us gaining some credibility back quicker. That’s not saying he doesn’t have work to do because he has a huge mess to clean up. Every little bit helps though. What I’m saying is that when Bush wanted to sell his war, HE didn’t go up to the UN. Cheney didn’t go. Rumsfeld didn’t go. Rice didn’t go. They sent the only person who had that level of stature and gravitas on the world stage, Colin Powell. They listened and they believed and the US got its wish. Barack has that stature. Sometimes a man’s very existence is bigger than his actual deeds. Nelson Mandela comes to mind. To the world a black POTUS is a signal. It’s a sign that things can be different. Meanwhile back here at home some people are chalking up Barack’s candidacy to Affirmative Action. Is that your position, Wade?
Comment by Wade
June 26th, 2008 11:57 amWhat? Wow. Just like the left, twisting everything the right says. I never said anything about controlling anything! I said, if we need to talk about whether or not we are ready for a black or female president, it proves we are not ready. We have too many issues with racism and gender discrimination in this country yet. We need to get over race and gender and vote BASED ON WHO WILL DO THE BEST JOB FOR THIS COUNTRY.
To quote you, “To the world a black POTUS is a signal.” Who cares what the WORLD thinks? This is not about the world, this is about the United States of America. I don’t care who other countries think I should vote for, especially if it is based on race. I’m note gonna vote for Barack because it is the politically correct thing to do and it will send the world a “sign”.
I, and others like me, will vote for whichever candidate based on how we feel which candidate best supports our issues. Who cares whether the president is black or female or both? It is about the right person for the job, PERIOD.
This politically correct bull about sending the world a sign and having to vote for Barack because he is black is what is destroying this country. You want to take away my freedom to vote for anyone that is white because you say it is time for a black president and to send the world a sign.
I will vote for whoever I want whatever race he may be based on his ability to effectively run this country. Also, read one of my previous posts, I NEVER SAID I WAS GOING TO VOTE FOR MCCAIN. You assume that I am going to walk the party line just because I am Republican.
Have a nice day. Until you can quit twisting my words and ignoring other words, I will not waste another post on you.
Supreme Court Declares Execution for Child Rapists Unconstitutional
On the flip side of Massachusetts’ “Jessica’s Law”, which calls for a mandatory 20 year sentence for child rapists (which I am for) comes the US Supreme Court decision to declare as unconstitutional, the State of Louisiana’s penalty for child rapists which is execution (which I am not against). Quite frankly, I believe the most suitable punishment for child rapists is life in prison among the general prison population with no chance for parole.
Is execution for pedophiles harsh? In my world the answer is no, not really, but life behind bars is appropriate punishment. A child has to grow up and live with the scars of molestation for the rest of her/his natural life. This is a harsh punishment wrought on a child for something heinous done to them that they could not prevent. The only fitting punishment for pedophiles is a life sentence for what they did to that child. I call it equal justice under the law.
In 44 years there has not been an execution for anything but murder in the US. There may have been other crimes involved including rape, but murder is the crime that gets the death penalty. Montana, Oklahoma, South Carolina, and Texas are the only other states that have executions as a penalty for pedophiles as punishment, and those are reserved for repeat offenders, a situation that would not occur if all states instituted life sentences for these cretins.
We see our country’s morals, or lack thereof, when people defend the rapist over the victim and believe that the perps constitutional rights should not be violated. Unfortunately, we have too many liberal judges and legislators in this land who side with the rights of the criminals over the victim and make the victim out to just as guilty as the criminal.
So tell me, what fault does a 9 year old have when she is raped?
My heart goes out to Mark Lunsford, father of Jessica Lunsford who was raped and buried alive at age 9 in 2005.
Rapist – age 14 or older, 20 years minimum mandatory sentence with no parole, life without parole for second offense.
Kristof: Never Mind the Terrorists
An excellent must read from Jewish World Review that backs up the fact that no matter what Israel does for peace, Israel’s enemies will continue to attack them with lies and rockets.
Tongue-in-cheek
Why this conservative is voting democrat in this year’s 2008 Presidential Election
From the Urban Conservative
Mandatory Sentencing For Child Rape Is Draconian According To Democrat Trial Lawyer/Politician James Fagan
Jessica’s Law is being considered in the Massachusetts House and Senate. What Jessica’s Law would do would proved a mandatory sentence of 20 years for raping a child under 12 years old. Democratic Representative James Fagan is a trial lawyer and is against this type of mandatory sentencing. What follows is part of what he had to say.
“Let me tell you why it’s so wrong, It’s so wrong because in these situations . . . that 6-year-old is going to sit in front of me, or somebody far worse than me and I’m going to rip them apart. I’m going to make sure that the rest of their life is ruined. That when they’re 8 years old they throw up; when they’re 12 years old, they won’t sleep. When they’re 19 years old they’ll have nightmares and they’ll never have a relationship with anybody. And that’s not because I’m a nice guy. That’s because when you’re in court, and you’re defending somebody’s liberty, and you’re facing a mandatory sentence of those draconian proportions, you have to do every single thing you can do on behalf of your client. That is your obligation as a trial lawyer.”
That is your obligation sir? To deliberately ruin the life of a child-rape victim? There are trial lawyers who could handle this type of trial without going through the hysterics and insanity that this person would. He makes me want to throw up. This is the morals, folks, of the Democrats, the liberals, and the left. All underage rape children left behind. If he is defending his client against a rape charge for a child under 12 and goes after the child in the manner he says he would, any decent judge would stop him. If he were to continue any decent judge would reprimand him, hold him in contempt of court, or have him disbarred.
It is unfathomable the stories that keep popping up about our elected officials who have gone and swan dived off the ship of common sense, morality, and decency. These black-hearted immoral villans have only one goal in mind, to line their pockets and fill their wallets with as much green as possible no matter what it takes, no matter how many or what lives they have to destroy, and no matter how low they have to take their own morals. Unfortunately, this is the sickening attitude of many elected officials.
In retrospect, I would suppose that these vile degenerates never had any morals to begin with and that is why they are willing to totally vilify any underage rape victim. I wonder what his reaction would be for any underage rape victim in his own family?
The only thing draconian here is Democratic Representative James Fagan of Massachusetts.
What Was 9-11, Just Another Part of History?
A topic of discussion at work recently was, of course, the war in Iraq. Among the comments made were,
“We need to pull out of Iraq, we can protect our own borders from terrorists.”
WHAT? That was the first thing that popped out of my mouth. “Are you kidding? What was 9-11 then, just another faded part of history? We cannot protect our borders when liberals and the left won’t let us secure it because that might deter the poor innocent illegal-immigrants from coming here and breaking our laws.” I went into a short tirade about how illegals don’t pay taxes, how they don’t put money into social security, how they raise the crime rate, how they take jobs from Americans, and how they send that money back to their families so they can spend it in Mexico, not America.
Neil Cavuto Hits the Nail on the Head
Neil Cavuto from Fox News hits the nail on the head with this one. The lack of action on the part of Congress is making Americans take their own action. He is right about us putting ourselves in charge of us. Congress won’t fix high taxes and high food costs and high fuel costs so we must do it on our own.
Senator Jim Inhofe Video On Domestic Energy
NOTE: Again, there is no mention of electricity as a power source. Most of our elected officials are totally ignorant of the current electric cars and how far advanced they are. They still insist that decent electric cars are 10 to 20 years away. Soon they will be informed.
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